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Comments on: Journler development ends, Sprouted shutting down http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/ Phil Dow on Journer on the Net Sat, 08 Aug 2015 18:12:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Yizhen http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-1025 Yizhen Fri, 22 Apr 2011 01:09:17 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-1025 Dear Phil, Hi, I've been using your Journler as an electronic lab notebook to keep track of my experimental data and I must say it's one of the best software I've ever found for scientific research. Journler allows me to log my experiments by date, cross-reference to other previous experiments, store the relevant data file (.doc, .xls etc) on the same entry and then TAG them so I can create smart folder to file them neatly. So all my data are easily searchable, exportable and printable. It's simply fantastic! It ticks all the boxes in terms of my dream electronic notebook. I think it's one essential software that I'd recommend to any new Mac user researcher, along with mekentosj Papers. Having said that, I'm saddened to see that you are no longer developing this further. I really love your software and I would really like to thank you! You've really designed one of the best electronic lab notebooks out there, and I believe that there's a demand and market out there for your software still. I will continue to use your software as long as I can (I've even put of upgrading to snow leopard so that I can continue to use your software!) I would like to wish you all the best in your future endeavours. Cheers, Yizhen PS: If you ever need someone to provide a writeup for the use of Journler for scientific research, I be happy to provide one. Dear Phil,

Hi, I’ve been using your Journler as an electronic lab notebook to keep track of my experimental data and I must say it’s one of the best software I’ve ever found for scientific research. Journler allows me to log my experiments by date, cross-reference to other previous experiments, store the relevant data file (.doc, .xls etc) on the same entry and then TAG them so I can create smart folder to file them neatly. So all my data are easily searchable, exportable and printable. It’s simply fantastic! It ticks all the boxes in terms of my dream electronic notebook. I think it’s one essential software that I’d recommend to any new Mac user researcher, along with mekentosj Papers.

Having said that, I’m saddened to see that you are no longer developing this further. I really love your software and I would really like to thank you! You’ve really designed one of the best electronic lab notebooks out there, and I believe that there’s a demand and market out there for your software still. I will continue to use your software as long as I can (I’ve even put of upgrading to snow leopard so that I can continue to use your software!)

I would like to wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

Cheers,
Yizhen

PS: If you ever need someone to provide a writeup for the use of Journler for scientific research, I
be happy to provide one.

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By: jzumsteg http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-386 jzumsteg Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:31:07 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-386 Like others, I am sorry to hear of the demise of Journler. It was the first program I bought for my new Mac Pro a couple years ago and it's the best of its kind. I came upon this entry when I went looking for Journler for my newly-purchased MacBook. I will now go straight to the "buy" site and pay for another license so I can have it on my MacBook. I hope you can make enough to support it, but I understand the economics of software development (heck, I've written a few iPhone apps, so I really understand the economics!). I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do, and thank you again for Journler. John - Seattle Like others, I am sorry to hear of the demise of Journler. It was the first program I bought for my new Mac Pro a couple years ago and it’s the best of its kind.

I came upon this entry when I went looking for Journler for my newly-purchased MacBook. I will now go straight to the “buy” site and pay for another license so I can have it on my MacBook. I hope you can make enough to support it, but I understand the economics of software development (heck, I’ve written a few iPhone apps, so I really understand the economics!).

I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do, and thank you again for Journler.

John - Seattle

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By: rockem http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-382 rockem Thu, 01 Apr 2010 06:51:32 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-382 It's a shame I don't understand why don't you make the software GPL ? open up the software as open source and you'll get all the help you need in code and support wish you all the luck It’s a shame
I don’t understand why don’t you make the software GPL ?
open up the software as open source and you’ll get all the help you need
in code and support

wish you all the luck

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By: mlgoodson http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-368 mlgoodson Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:13:50 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-368 Hi Phil, I just thought I would pipe in that while it's always sad to see a great product like Journler end it's development, you have left us with a great product that I use nearly every day. That's a great legacy and something to be very proud of. Thank you for all of your effort. Best of luck in the future, Michael Hi Phil,

I just thought I would pipe in that while it’s always sad to see a great product like Journler end it’s development, you have left us with a great product that I use nearly every day. That’s a great legacy and something to be very proud of. Thank you for all of your effort.

Best of luck in the future,
Michael

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By: angiewu http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-366 angiewu Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:53:33 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-366 Philip, your journler changed my life and made me so happy. You are a great person, I can tell from your writings. I wish you all the best in whatever you do, wherever you are. Someone like you will always end up finding true happiness. Never give up :) and never feel guilty or regret for anything you chose to do or to let go. You should live your life as you please, you don't own anyone anything. Enjoy your life, you deserve it. Hugs. Philip, your journler changed my life and made me so happy. You are a great person, I can tell from your writings. I wish you all the best in whatever you do, wherever you are. Someone like you will always end up finding true happiness. Never give up :)
and never feel guilty or regret for anything you chose to do or to let go. You should live your life as you please, you don’t own anyone anything. Enjoy your life, you deserve it.

Hugs.

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By: anr http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-357 anr Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:13:09 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-357 Just wanted to say thanks a lot for the hard work during the years. Journler was and continue to be great! Best wishes on everything Andreas from Denmark Just wanted to say thanks a lot for the hard work during the years. Journler was and continue to be great!

Best wishes on everything

Andreas from Denmark

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By: costas http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-356 costas Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:08:36 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-356 Phil, I would like to thank you for producing Journler and supporting it up to now. It's an amazing piece of software, no other way to describe it. I would like to underline "faildisk"'s comment. If noone steps in to buy the code in the next few months, it would be fantastic if it was released, all of it, under an open source license. I bet that plenty of people would be interested to keep it going. I am using Journler for years now, and I'm proud to say I was one of the people who donated. I only found out today that the software will no longer be developed, and freaked out on the possibility that in some future Mac OS update I will not be able to access my data any more because Journler might be incompatible. I spent the day researching all options: Yojimbo, Together, EagleFiler, Notae, DevonThink, you name it. NONE comes EVEN CLOSE to the beauty, elegance and sense that Journler is. So please, please, please, consider releasing the source to the world, and allowing Journler to thrive for the years to come. Phil, I would like to thank you for producing Journler and supporting it up to now. It’s an amazing piece of software, no other way to describe it. I would like to underline “faildisk”’s comment. If noone steps in to buy the code in the next few months, it would be fantastic if it was released, all of it, under an open source license. I bet that plenty of people would be interested to keep it going.

I am using Journler for years now, and I’m proud to say I was one of the people who donated. I only found out today that the software will no longer be developed, and freaked out on the possibility that in some future Mac OS update I will not be able to access my data any more because Journler might be incompatible. I spent the day researching all options: Yojimbo, Together, EagleFiler, Notae, DevonThink, you name it. NONE comes EVEN CLOSE to the beauty, elegance and sense that Journler is. So please, please, please, consider releasing the source to the world, and allowing Journler to thrive for the years to come.

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By: yeidel http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-355 yeidel Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:09:15 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-355 Philip, I'm so sorry about the news, though I understand the pressures that led to your decision. Journler was a favorite tool of mine in the 1.x days. I used to for lyrics and scratch recordings as I was writing songs, as well as for intimate occasional notes. It was wonderfully easy to use. After a few machine migrations, I needed to upgrade to 2.x. For some reason, the migration wasn't straightforward (I forget just why and how), and I just set it aside. A couple of years past, with "Fix Journler" on my to-do list. This year, i finally got it together, and installed the 2.x and got my old Journler content converted. Then I went to the site for news, only to see your notice. Even though you are stopping development, I paid for a license, because even a static product of this quality is worth that to me. Once that day comes when I have to get onto a system on which Journler won't run, I'm pretty confident that I will be able to migrate the content out of Journler storage into whatever is next. Until then, I'm a big fan and user. Thanks, Philip. Never kid yourself, you have won a great victory. I only hope you got out before the damage was too severe. -- Joshua Philip,

I’m so sorry about the news, though I understand the pressures that led to your decision. Journler was a favorite tool of mine in the 1.x days. I used to for lyrics and scratch recordings as I was writing songs, as well as for intimate occasional notes. It was wonderfully easy to use.

After a few machine migrations, I needed to upgrade to 2.x. For some reason, the migration wasn’t straightforward (I forget just why and how), and I just set it aside. A couple of years past, with “Fix Journler” on my to-do list.

This year, i finally got it together, and installed the 2.x and got my old Journler content converted. Then I went to the site for news, only to see your notice. Even though you are stopping development, I paid for a license, because even a static product of this quality is worth that to me.

Once that day comes when I have to get onto a system on which Journler won’t run, I’m pretty confident that I will be able to migrate the content out of Journler storage into whatever is next. Until then, I’m a big fan and user.

Thanks, Philip. Never kid yourself, you have won a great victory. I only hope you got out before the damage was too severe.

– Joshua

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By: synth01 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-346 synth01 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:45:11 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-346 I love Journler! The app is amazing. And the possibilities are astounding. So you went about it wrong. That's okay, it can still live on in someone else's hands. There's nothing wrong with that. If I had Cocoa skills I'd seriously dedicate time every week to it. I bet other people would, too, if it were open sourced. I totally respect that you're done with Journler. I think that's great and right. You did your duty spectacularly by building it. You filled a need that obviously thousands of people had. And now you're done with your part of the relay. You shouldn't expect to run the whole race yourself. The project needs to be proactively handed off to someone. I'm sure someone would take it: a company, a GPL group, someone. I mean, if it had more marketing, the user base would take off. Why wouldn't it be handled somewhat like Wordpress and Firefox? Granted, it's apple-specific, but the functionality, in my view, is almost as universal. I use Journler every single day. Good integration with Wordpress would open up a whole new crowd (and wouldn't be too difficult, in the long run). Your ideas for lex would mean the next generation in OS file system infrastructure, and that's no exageration. I've meant to comment about this on the forums for months, begging you to hand it to someone. It's just too good to abandon it! I love Journler! The app is amazing. And the possibilities are astounding. So you went about it wrong. That’s okay, it can still live on in someone else’s hands. There’s nothing wrong with that. If I had Cocoa skills I’d seriously dedicate time every week to it. I bet other people would, too, if it were open sourced.

I totally respect that you’re done with Journler. I think that’s great and right. You did your duty spectacularly by building it. You filled a need that obviously thousands of people had. And now you’re done with your part of the relay. You shouldn’t expect to run the whole race yourself.

The project needs to be proactively handed off to someone. I’m sure someone would take it: a company, a GPL group, someone. I mean, if it had more marketing, the user base would take off. Why wouldn’t it be handled somewhat like Wordpress and Firefox? Granted, it’s apple-specific, but the functionality, in my view, is almost as universal. I use Journler every single day. Good integration with Wordpress would open up a whole new crowd (and wouldn’t be too difficult, in the long run). Your ideas for lex would mean the next generation in OS file system infrastructure, and that’s no exageration.

I’ve meant to comment about this on the forums for months, begging you to hand it to someone. It’s just too good to abandon it!

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By: bmunch http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-344 bmunch Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:36:06 +0000 http://www.journler.com/blog/2009/09/23/journler-development-ends-sprouted-shutting-down/#comment-344 philip, whatever you do, and wherever you head, know that you created exceptional software that others like me used and benefited tremendously from. thank you, thank you and thank you for the hard work that you contributed to this project. may your next steps be fruitful. philip,

whatever you do, and wherever you head, know that you created exceptional software that others like me used and benefited tremendously from.

thank you, thank you and thank you for the hard work that you contributed to this project.

may your next steps be fruitful.

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